Talk:Ministering to Sexual Brokenness

Hi Arnoud: I think we should consider renaming this section. "Porn" is a shortening of Pornography and probably should not be in the title. Also I think we should look at this from a positive angle, perhaps we should called it Sexual Integrity or Sexual Purity? What do you think? --Kev-The-Hasty 08:33, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

I do really like the input. Not sure if the titles you suggest are actually putting the edge to it that it needs. I do like them as seperate articles, but my bluntness in just being straight on is to name the things as they are. It is a title that attracts direct attention. Daring to address this issue straight on. Not going around the subject as many people are doing. I think YWAM needs to be more radical and daring. But of course, I am speaking from my perspective. In the tone that I would usually address it. I also like to include other subjects related. Like working among prostitutes and humantrafficing. Or homosexuality. Sexual integrity or sexual purity are not touching these subjects. Sub categories can be made, of course. This can be an introduction page to a whole bunch of different subjects. And I know the word "Porn" is tacky. Just like the word "Masturbation", well, that is what it is called. Fires up people or it makes them ashamed. Or it is exactly what is needed to have them read it and search help for them. Okay, long answer.. I just put out the layout for it, so I need to push a bit further, fill in the subjects I put out there. From there we can still change titles, divide and do things differently. Arnoud van Dillewijn 12:48, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi Kevin: Good introduction. This could be an amazing page, especially if it is cooperative. It is to make a stand together against what we see happening. Just yesterday I had a talk with one of the guys here at Hurlach and it is actually relaxed to talk about it as guys. We have to deal with it, and best is to do it together. The approach I like to have for the page is to keep private stories out of it. It is not a blog. But if it does ask for such an approach, there can be a personal story page as well. Got to share some more with you, but I am not gonna talk about it here, haha! Arnoud van Dillewijn 17:29, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

@Kevin: Looks like I am doing a good job! :) I can't edit this page anymore because the Spamblocker of the base is not allowing me to. I took the worst word out, but now I can't change it. Bit crazy. I had this new idea to make this kind of pages: Sex Issue:Homosexuality or Sex Issue:Sexual Purity. Let me know what you think. Hope you can change the page still. Do you think the whole KB can be blocked by using these words? Arnoud van Dillewijn 14:32, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

@Kevin: Looking at the error it is the amount of banned words that is the problem. So reducing the words in this category is vital. So it is actually good to make different pages. If you can remove the part I put on this page, I think that I can excess the page again. I do have it copied. But I have to present it differently anyway. Arnoud van Dillewijn 14:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi Arnoud, Sounds like they have a zealous spamfilter. The right way to solve this is to ask their web guru to add the www.ywamkb.net to their "Whitelist". This will allow it past the naughty word filter that it uses on unknown sites. If you are nice to them they will do this for you. If they would feel more confident then perhaps they can drop me an email. Your suggestion of limiting the use of "naughty words" is unlikely to work outside of the place you are - as other siteblockers will have different thresholds for naughtiness. Hope this helps. --Kev-The-Hasty 19:02, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Suggestions for developing this article
I think the article will be too long and leads in several directions. YWAM has done good work in many of these areas and I think it will be good to show case some YWAM expertise here.

Ministering to Sexually broken
 * Discipling the Christian (DTS?) - sexual issues inside and outside of marriage, abuse, homosexuality
 * Restoration of leaders/christians with sexual sin issues
 * Help for Christians for keeping themselves sexually pure.
 * Discipling the Christian (church context) - sexual issues inside and outside of marriage, abuse, homosexuality
 * Outreach to the Sexually Broken: Sex Traffiking, Prostitution, Child Prostitution, Pornographers and porn-models

etc.

What do you think? YWAM has traditionally been strong in outreach to sex-workers and to the homosexual community. We should express this somehow. I think there are 2 or 3 prostitute outreaches run by YWAM England alone...
 * --Kev-The-Hasty 18:15, 12 February 2011 (UTC)